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		<title>By: Darius K.</title>
		<link>http://dfan.org/blog/2009/07/02/four-more-possible-spewers/comment-page-1/#comment-4596</link>
		<dc:creator>Darius K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also on the video game front, you have Increpare:

http://www.increpare.com/

Roughly one game a week, usually interesting too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also on the video game front, you have Increpare:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.increpare.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.increpare.com/</a></p>
<p>Roughly one game a week, usually interesting too!</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark E. Smith seems like another archetypal spewer. He, Pollard and Zappa are the three musicians who got their own shelves separate from the rest of my CD collection.

Hm. There seem to be two kinds of prolificness in your list-- people whose rate of releasing work is huge and maybe related to the lack of a quality filter, and inexorable forces like Woody Allen and Dave Sim, who don&#039;t work so amazingly fast but also never stop.

In the latter category, I would actually nominate Dylan.

In the former... depends on how long they have to be prolific for. Alan Jenkins (Deep Freeze Mice/Chrysanthemums/Creams/Ruth&#039;s Refrigerator) spent about a decade spewing two dozen albums but has slowed down since. Graham Smith only had a few years of spewing (but fell back on the spirit of it, to great result, with his &quot;record a box set in one month&quot; thing a few Novembers ago).

Video games have a similar problem to movies-- they usually take enough people to make that one person&#039;s idiosyncrasies can&#039;t dominate. There are probably solo developers in the webgame world that qualify, though-- jmbt02 (http://jmtb02.com/games/) comes to mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark E. Smith seems like another archetypal spewer. He, Pollard and Zappa are the three musicians who got their own shelves separate from the rest of my CD collection.</p>
<p>Hm. There seem to be two kinds of prolificness in your list&#8211; people whose rate of releasing work is huge and maybe related to the lack of a quality filter, and inexorable forces like Woody Allen and Dave Sim, who don&#8217;t work so amazingly fast but also never stop.</p>
<p>In the latter category, I would actually nominate Dylan.</p>
<p>In the former&#8230; depends on how long they have to be prolific for. Alan Jenkins (Deep Freeze Mice/Chrysanthemums/Creams/Ruth&#8217;s Refrigerator) spent about a decade spewing two dozen albums but has slowed down since. Graham Smith only had a few years of spewing (but fell back on the spirit of it, to great result, with his &#8220;record a box set in one month&#8221; thing a few Novembers ago).</p>
<p>Video games have a similar problem to movies&#8211; they usually take enough people to make that one person&#8217;s idiosyncrasies can&#8217;t dominate. There are probably solo developers in the webgame world that qualify, though&#8211; jmbt02 (<a href="http://jmtb02.com/games/" rel="nofollow">http://jmtb02.com/games/</a>) comes to mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should we be subtle here?  Updike and Roth come immediately to mind.  Among prolific authors, aren&#039;t the &quot;spewer&quot; qualities the rule rather than the exception?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should we be subtle here?  Updike and Roth come immediately to mind.  Among prolific authors, aren&#8217;t the &#8220;spewer&#8221; qualities the rule rather than the exception?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Dominus</title>
		<link>http://dfan.org/blog/2009/07/02/four-more-possible-spewers/comment-page-1/#comment-3891</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Dominus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure he&#039;s prolific enough, but maybe Neal Stephenson fits.

He&#039;s only written something like half a dozen novels, but one of them was a 2400-page monster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure he&#8217;s prolific enough, but maybe Neal Stephenson fits.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s only written something like half a dozen novels, but one of them was a 2400-page monster.</p>
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		<title>By: geenius</title>
		<link>http://dfan.org/blog/2009/07/02/four-more-possible-spewers/comment-page-1/#comment-3870</link>
		<dc:creator>geenius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised you haven&#039;t mentioned Neil Young. And if you&#039;re open to including groups along with individual artists, I nominate Wu-Tang Clan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised you haven&#8217;t mentioned Neil Young. And if you&#8217;re open to including groups along with individual artists, I nominate Wu-Tang Clan.</p>
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		<title>By: Iain</title>
		<link>http://dfan.org/blog/2009/07/02/four-more-possible-spewers/comment-page-1/#comment-3863</link>
		<dc:creator>Iain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or even better, Jack Kirby.</description>
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		<title>By: Iain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody Allen totally fits.

In comics: Frank Miller?
In books: Barbara Cartland?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody Allen totally fits.</p>
<p>In comics: Frank Miller?<br />
In books: Barbara Cartland?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Fitzgerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Fitzgerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been considering Frank Gehry.  I&#039;m not sure if an architect can qualify the same way, since the work he does requires contracts and money, and isn&#039;t entirely self-motivated, but I think it works.  As far as the criteria are concerned:

- incredibly prolific
He has completed 45 works, according to Wikipedia, and some of those &quot;works&quot; are collections of buildings.  Half of those were in the past ten years, and he has 21 &quot;in progress,&quot; so maybe he&#039;s still at the peak of his spewage.  To be honest, I&#039;m not sure how this compares to other architects, but it seems high.

- awesome at their best
It&#039;s undeniable that he&#039;s had a large impact on architecture ever since the Guggenheim was completed in 1997.

- but with a nonexistent quality filter
He took a job to design the cafeteria for Conde Nast in 2000.  It looks stupid.

- largely intuitive in approach, as far as I can tell
I don&#039;t know where else this stuff could come from.

- even the best works are big messes (in a great way) rather than tightly constructed jewels
I think the Stata Center is amazing in so many ways, but there&#039;s been tons of trouble with architectural basics like drainage and electrical systems.  The Walt Disney Concert Hall, while gorgeous, caused traffic accidents on the LA freeway because it was too reflective during the daytime.

- apparently wide-ranging in genre, but with enough tics that their work is instantly recognizable
This you could argue, I think.  His buildings definitely have similar thematic elements, and I think the varied types of work he does (exteriors, atria, plazas) could be considered &quot;wide-ranging in genre.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been considering Frank Gehry.  I&#8217;m not sure if an architect can qualify the same way, since the work he does requires contracts and money, and isn&#8217;t entirely self-motivated, but I think it works.  As far as the criteria are concerned:</p>
<p>- incredibly prolific<br />
He has completed 45 works, according to Wikipedia, and some of those &#8220;works&#8221; are collections of buildings.  Half of those were in the past ten years, and he has 21 &#8220;in progress,&#8221; so maybe he&#8217;s still at the peak of his spewage.  To be honest, I&#8217;m not sure how this compares to other architects, but it seems high.</p>
<p>- awesome at their best<br />
It&#8217;s undeniable that he&#8217;s had a large impact on architecture ever since the Guggenheim was completed in 1997.</p>
<p>- but with a nonexistent quality filter<br />
He took a job to design the cafeteria for Conde Nast in 2000.  It looks stupid.</p>
<p>- largely intuitive in approach, as far as I can tell<br />
I don&#8217;t know where else this stuff could come from.</p>
<p>- even the best works are big messes (in a great way) rather than tightly constructed jewels<br />
I think the Stata Center is amazing in so many ways, but there&#8217;s been tons of trouble with architectural basics like drainage and electrical systems.  The Walt Disney Concert Hall, while gorgeous, caused traffic accidents on the LA freeway because it was too reflective during the daytime.</p>
<p>- apparently wide-ranging in genre, but with enough tics that their work is instantly recognizable<br />
This you could argue, I think.  His buildings definitely have similar thematic elements, and I think the varied types of work he does (exteriors, atria, plazas) could be considered &#8220;wide-ranging in genre.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Shiovitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Shiovitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, how about David Lynch? I haven&#039;t seen a huge amount of his stuff but it seems pretty intuitive and often a mess. (I admit I don&#039;t know about the *creation process* vs the end result, since presumably you&#039;re talking about the former being intuitive). 

Also, if you&#039;re counting IF authors, Andy Phillips. Who you probably haven&#039;t played anything by, but I wrote &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ministryofpeace.com/if-review/reviews/20010119.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this review&lt;/a&gt; of one of his previous things and in retrospect it sounds like what you&#039;re talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, how about David Lynch? I haven&#8217;t seen a huge amount of his stuff but it seems pretty intuitive and often a mess. (I admit I don&#8217;t know about the *creation process* vs the end result, since presumably you&#8217;re talking about the former being intuitive). </p>
<p>Also, if you&#8217;re counting IF authors, Andy Phillips. Who you probably haven&#8217;t played anything by, but I wrote <a href="http://www.ministryofpeace.com/if-review/reviews/20010119.html" rel="nofollow">this review</a> of one of his previous things and in retrospect it sounds like what you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
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